On the footy hour on sen.Martin Stillman was talking about were to play finale matches.HE said Casey would play a finale to thank the council and all involved,also Bendigo got a finale last year for the same reson as casey.
My question, wernt Frankston told they would get a finale game last year due to the major improvments at Frankston?but were playing Tassie first finale so had to play in Tassie 10000+ crowd.
I think if Frankston make the 8 they are owed a finals game.Thier is no better grownd to watch the v.f.l than Frankston in my opinion and i beleive they would get a crowd of 5000.
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[size=18][u][i][b]IF [/b][/i][/u][/size]thats what was said you can be sure that the Frankston boys will have a fair bit to say about it.
Can confirm mate that Martin did say that they would feel obliged to Casey a final due to their works done. Heard it straight from the horses mouth! :wink:
There's no "IF" about it, I heard it as well.
To be quite honest, this ground allocation thing is bordering on a joke. It was last year and it will be again this year because many clubs deserve finals at their grounds and only a couple get them.
So perhaps they need to try one of two things:
- play the two finals in the first weekend that can't be played on TEAC Oval on neutral grounds. Eg. Coburg v Werribee at Williamstown.
or
- Ditch the Sunday ABC coverage in the first week of finals and play all games at suburban grounds. The ABC can show a Saturday game as normal from a local ground.
Thoughts?
I think they should have the two games at Teac Oval for TV rights (one Elimination and one Qualifying Final).
The other two games to be played to the teams higher on the ladder.
1st vs 4th Teac Oval
2nd vs 3rd higher placed team at home
5th vs 8th Teac Oval
6th vs 7th higher placed team at home
Next year they should alternate
1st vs 4th higher placed team at home
2nd vs 3rd Teac Oval
5th vs 8th higher placed team at home
6th vs 7th Teac Oval
Otherwise the Tassie's of the world will always get hoe finals regardles where they finish. Most teams would have had some finals experience at Teac Oval over the years, so it shouldn't matter playing there as it is even keel. At least if you alternate between finals positions yu would at least share it around.
I can't think of anything fairer unless all games are played at the highest ranked team at home during week one of finals. I believe the WAFL is dooingn this in 2006 ?
Short answer. I don't care what the WAFL does. Its the 4th ranked competition in the country so who cares.
The finals venues are shared on a reasonable basis.
The first week of the finals will most likely be as follows:
Northern Bullants v Geelong @ Port
Sandringham v Williamstown @ Beach Rd
Werribee v North Ballarat @ Port
Coburg Tigers v Frankston @ Frankston Park
for what its worth
Frankston bias as usual from Dolphin. Until the Frankston fans learn to behave they shouldn't have a final down there.
Say Frankston finish 8th, why should they get to host a final against a club who might have won four more games than them? The problem with the VFL is that they have no clear policy on this. They MUST introduce a clear policy. Sides MUST be rewarded for their form during the home and away season.
There is a lot at stake with this, say a club like Coburg play Frankston at Coburg - I reckon Coburg would be favourite. Take the same teams and play at Frankston and I'd say Frankston would be favourite. Home ground advantage does mean a lot in the VFL.
Teams begin training in November, clubs spend thousands of dollars of players over the course of aseason, sponsors and fans throw their money in and donate their time and for the draw to be distorted at its most crucial point is quite clearly wrong.
Nothing to to do with bias, I'm justing putting it as I see.
Are you suggesting a final between Frankston & Coburg should be played at Coburg?
Given the funds put in to the ground by the Council over the last 3 years, a final at Frankston Park would be appropriate acknowledgement of their support for the competition, on the same basis as the Bendigo final last year.
And as for your comments on the draw, if you think about it, the draw is actually distorted right from the start.
If Port were playing finals, you would have an even greater issue.
This was an issue last year, and looks like it will be an issue this year.
Coburg v Frankston at Port ??
Most likely it looks like
1st Preston v 4th Geelong at Cramer Street
2nd Sandringham v 3rd Williamstown at Teac Oval
Coburg, Werribee, North Ballarat and Frankston could finish in any order.
And then again Williamstown and Geelong are still no certainties to finish in top four.
The eight looks settled but only the top two Bullants and Sandy look secured in their positions. With four rounds to go they will finish top two.
Until the vfl have a set criteria there will always be debate.
Why not have all of the first week of finals at the home ground of the highest ranked teams.
Start from next year and put the rules in place before the season starts so there is no complaints.
The intention should always be to maximise attendance.
Not necessarily, until they fix that grandstand up they shouldnt be hosting any finals. However, two years ago Coburg finished higher than Box Hill and had to travel to Box Hill for a final and lost by a small margin. So perhaps they should be entitled to a home final on the basis that they missed out previously.
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And as for your comments on the draw, if you think about it, the draw is actually distorted right from the start.?.[/quote] I realise that, but why make it any more unfair? Besides there is a random element to the draw, nobody knows who will be strong and who wont be so its purely based on luck. But the finals venue allocation is not because it is decided by the governing body after the last week of the round.
Besides, nobody will remember if Frankston played Williamstown once or twice during the home and away season by next year but they will remember if Frankston made a Preliminary or Grand Final. As will local businesses and supporters/potential members.